My journey in collecting baseball cards of a player most people haven't heard of.
Showing posts with label SP Legendary Cuts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label SP Legendary Cuts. Show all posts
Wednesday, August 2, 2017
Thursday, March 5, 2015
The Rise and Fall of the Hank Greenberg cut auto
Slash, when did cut autos start to suck?
This thought of mine came about after I purchased this card. An excellent card, a 1/1 cut autograph from Topps, what's not to love?
What's not to love:
1. Design is lackluster and boring.
2. There is no image of HG's face on the card. (which I will get into later)
3. This is HG's ONLY card from 2013 Topps Series 2. His only card from 2013 Topps Series 1 is the same card. I haven't seen it, but I can't imagine that it varies in any meaningful way.
4. There is no connection to the set from looking at the front of the card. The set is called "Chasing History Cut Signatures", but there is no way anyone could have known that from looking at the front of the card.
The list goes on... Don't get me wrong, I love this card, as I do every card in my collection, but I wish that card companies would do more when issuing cut autographs in products.
In all of 2013, HG had 11 cards issued. 9 of them are 1/1 cut autographs. For player collectors, obtaining all, nonetheless 1 of these cards is damn near impossible. I was lucky enough to be known on the FCB forums as the HG collector, and was contacted asking if I had interest in the card. Not knowing if he would have sold it otherwise if he didn't know that I existed.
Because pulling a 1/1 from a product like 2013 Topps or something similar is so rare, it could even be possible that some of the 1/1s from 2013 haven't been pulled yet, similar to the story behind this card. The original owner randomly bought a 2013 Topps Series 2 jumbo box and pulled it.
A brief history lesson on HG cut autos over the years.
The first HG cut autograph card was issued in 2002 SP Legendary Cuts, widely regarded as the greatest cut autograph set ever produced, featuring legends of the game like Babe Ruth (/3), Christy Mathewson (/2), Honus Wagner (/6), Joe DiMaggio (/103), Lou Gehrig (/3), Mickey Mantle (/2), Ty Cobb (/2), and Walter Johnson (/20) with high numbered and more rare subjects included.
HG had 94 cut signature cards issued in this set. This set had everything. Beautiful imagery, big, full windows for the autograph to show cleanly, hand numbered cards. This was cut autographs in their best.
Around the time of 2004, HG 1/1 cuts were being issued in products at a more frequent rate.
Upper Deck and SP Legendary Cuts still owned the cut autograph space, and Topps was struggling to keep up in both volume and quality.
Then came 2006 SP Legendary Cuts, the resurgence of the vintage cut autograph in baseball cards. Also by Upper Deck, these cards are the beautiful brothers and sisters to the 2002 set. In 2006 SP Legendary Cuts, HG was featured in 4 different subsets, totaling 114 cut autograph cards in the entire product, exceeding the total from 2002. Here are two that were done very well in my own collection:
After the 2006 set, 1/1 cut autos were produced as one offs in products such as 2006 Topps Co-Signers, which I believe only survived for 2 years.
After that came the 2007 SP Legendary Cut set, which gave us similar aesthetic and high volume, producing 94 total cards, including one pairing with Babe Ruth, and another with Sandy Koufax, both 1/1s.
Then came 2008 SP Legendary Cuts, and Upper Deck stopped using player photographs on their cards. We also began to see more autographs cut off by a window, and very ugly cuts as evident that Upper Deck was running out of visually pleasing autographs to put in their cards. With that, we saw a drop off in the amount of cut autograph cards of HG produced, now down to at least 15 between two subsets(one card that featured a cut auto was not numbered, so no one really knows how many of them are out there).
2009 SP Legendary Cuts featured 17 HG autos, with still no image of him on the card.
You get the picture. The cut auto game, once ruled by Upper Deck and SP Legendary Cuts was and is now a shell of itself. Now, we are getting results like these:
I'm sorry Topps, I don't recognize a player by the name of "Ank Greenberg".
Somebody please alert the authorities, we have a missing letter to report.
Not only are the quality of the autographs within the card diminishing, but the designs of the card itself are too. That is why any of the cut autos from 2002 SP Legendary Cuts would outsell any 1/1 cut like from 2014 Topps Five Star ($225 on two occassions)
You might then say, "hey, what about the 2014 Topps Dynasty 1/1 cut?" To that I would say:
1. This card was put on eBay at the height of the Topps Dynasty hype
2. This card has superior design if put up against 2014 Topps Five Star or 2013 Topps
3. This sale was a fluke, no other 1/1 cut sold recently had approached $250
So there.
What's the solution, card manufacturers? Stick to what works. Card companies need to go back to the glory days of cut auto cards, where beautiful player images and backgrounds combined with full windows that do not obstruct the autograph. It's a simple solution, however, we may not see it come to fruition.
Because really, what is so unique about this?
This thought of mine came about after I purchased this card. An excellent card, a 1/1 cut autograph from Topps, what's not to love?What's not to love:
1. Design is lackluster and boring.
2. There is no image of HG's face on the card. (which I will get into later)
3. This is HG's ONLY card from 2013 Topps Series 2. His only card from 2013 Topps Series 1 is the same card. I haven't seen it, but I can't imagine that it varies in any meaningful way.
4. There is no connection to the set from looking at the front of the card. The set is called "Chasing History Cut Signatures", but there is no way anyone could have known that from looking at the front of the card.
The list goes on... Don't get me wrong, I love this card, as I do every card in my collection, but I wish that card companies would do more when issuing cut autographs in products.
In all of 2013, HG had 11 cards issued. 9 of them are 1/1 cut autographs. For player collectors, obtaining all, nonetheless 1 of these cards is damn near impossible. I was lucky enough to be known on the FCB forums as the HG collector, and was contacted asking if I had interest in the card. Not knowing if he would have sold it otherwise if he didn't know that I existed.
Because pulling a 1/1 from a product like 2013 Topps or something similar is so rare, it could even be possible that some of the 1/1s from 2013 haven't been pulled yet, similar to the story behind this card. The original owner randomly bought a 2013 Topps Series 2 jumbo box and pulled it.
A brief history lesson on HG cut autos over the years.
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| c/o cardboardconnection.com |
HG had 94 cut signature cards issued in this set. This set had everything. Beautiful imagery, big, full windows for the autograph to show cleanly, hand numbered cards. This was cut autographs in their best.
Around the time of 2004, HG 1/1 cuts were being issued in products at a more frequent rate.
Upper Deck and SP Legendary Cuts still owned the cut autograph space, and Topps was struggling to keep up in both volume and quality.
Then came 2006 SP Legendary Cuts, the resurgence of the vintage cut autograph in baseball cards. Also by Upper Deck, these cards are the beautiful brothers and sisters to the 2002 set. In 2006 SP Legendary Cuts, HG was featured in 4 different subsets, totaling 114 cut autograph cards in the entire product, exceeding the total from 2002. Here are two that were done very well in my own collection:
After the 2006 set, 1/1 cut autos were produced as one offs in products such as 2006 Topps Co-Signers, which I believe only survived for 2 years.
After that came the 2007 SP Legendary Cut set, which gave us similar aesthetic and high volume, producing 94 total cards, including one pairing with Babe Ruth, and another with Sandy Koufax, both 1/1s.
Then came 2008 SP Legendary Cuts, and Upper Deck stopped using player photographs on their cards. We also began to see more autographs cut off by a window, and very ugly cuts as evident that Upper Deck was running out of visually pleasing autographs to put in their cards. With that, we saw a drop off in the amount of cut autograph cards of HG produced, now down to at least 15 between two subsets(one card that featured a cut auto was not numbered, so no one really knows how many of them are out there).2009 SP Legendary Cuts featured 17 HG autos, with still no image of him on the card.
You get the picture. The cut auto game, once ruled by Upper Deck and SP Legendary Cuts was and is now a shell of itself. Now, we are getting results like these:
| from eBay.com |
I'm sorry Topps, I don't recognize a player by the name of "Ank Greenberg".
Somebody please alert the authorities, we have a missing letter to report.
Not only are the quality of the autographs within the card diminishing, but the designs of the card itself are too. That is why any of the cut autos from 2002 SP Legendary Cuts would outsell any 1/1 cut like from 2014 Topps Five Star ($225 on two occassions)
You might then say, "hey, what about the 2014 Topps Dynasty 1/1 cut?" To that I would say:
| from eBay.com |
2. This card has superior design if put up against 2014 Topps Five Star or 2013 Topps
3. This sale was a fluke, no other 1/1 cut sold recently had approached $250
So there.
What's the solution, card manufacturers? Stick to what works. Card companies need to go back to the glory days of cut auto cards, where beautiful player images and backgrounds combined with full windows that do not obstruct the autograph. It's a simple solution, however, we may not see it come to fruition.
Because really, what is so unique about this?
Tuesday, February 3, 2015
Friendly competition + unemployment = lots of cards
Some weeks ago I cultivated a relationship with someone else in this world that collects Hank Greenberg cards.
You might be thinking, "what, someone else collects this stuff?" In fact, yes. they do.
While speaking with him and comparing our collections, I think it fueled a bit of a fire in me to best his collection. He has a ton of high end cut autographs, low numbered cards, bat cards and some vintage. Nothing short of a great collection.
I really enjoy talking with him (almost daily) and asking for advice on purchases, prices etc. If you don't know someone who collects the same way you do, I highly recommend you reach out to them for their friendship, guidance and knowledge.
So I've been buying. Also probably aided by my being unemployed since early January. With time comes opportunity. And with opportunity, comes a hot streak.
Everything below is what I've acquired since early January, with two more cards coming this and next week:
You might be thinking, "what, someone else collects this stuff?" In fact, yes. they do.
While speaking with him and comparing our collections, I think it fueled a bit of a fire in me to best his collection. He has a ton of high end cut autographs, low numbered cards, bat cards and some vintage. Nothing short of a great collection.
I really enjoy talking with him (almost daily) and asking for advice on purchases, prices etc. If you don't know someone who collects the same way you do, I highly recommend you reach out to them for their friendship, guidance and knowledge.
So I've been buying. Also probably aided by my being unemployed since early January. With time comes opportunity. And with opportunity, comes a hot streak.
Everything below is what I've acquired since early January, with two more cards coming this and next week:
Labels:
1934,
autograph,
bat,
bat knob,
book,
eBay,
goudey,
gum card,
Hank Greenberg,
national chicle,
SGC,
SP Legendary Cuts,
vintage
Friday, August 29, 2014
Bats on bats on bats
Over the last month I've focused on tackling some of the bat cards that I avoided in the past. I like getting the bat cards, although I try not to think about where the bat sliver actually came from. Glad that I've completed the run of the non-expensive 2012 Panini National Treasures bat cards, so hoping I can acquire some of the higher-end cards paired with other legends of the game.
I was also fortunate to acquire a tough card that rarely comes up with the 2005 SP Legendary Cuts bat /15 for a very decent price.
All below are the cards that I have acquired over the past month.
I was also fortunate to acquire a tough card that rarely comes up with the 2005 SP Legendary Cuts bat /15 for a very decent price.
All below are the cards that I have acquired over the past month.
Monday, December 2, 2013
Flea Market pickup
On a cold day in October, my family and I went to the Columbus Market in New Jersey, somewhere my mom had always wanted to go but never had the chance. We visited the antique buildings instead of the street-fair-like flea, which ended up being fruitful.
I took a quick left and lapped around the room searching for any signs of sports cards. Turns out if I had just turned right I would have come to the area of which I was interested; the sports cards. My dad had flagged me down to bring me over, and I spent the next 30 minutes combing through bargain bins. I came across a bin labeled "Ted Williams" among bins labeled "Derek Jeter" and "David Wright". In the back of the box I found the below card for a dollar:
This marks the first card of Hank Greenberg that I bought from a flea market. Pretty pleased with the card for a buck!
I took a quick left and lapped around the room searching for any signs of sports cards. Turns out if I had just turned right I would have come to the area of which I was interested; the sports cards. My dad had flagged me down to bring me over, and I spent the next 30 minutes combing through bargain bins. I came across a bin labeled "Ted Williams" among bins labeled "Derek Jeter" and "David Wright". In the back of the box I found the below card for a dollar:
This marks the first card of Hank Greenberg that I bought from a flea market. Pretty pleased with the card for a buck!
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